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title: Risk ransomware or invest in security? Small biz struggles – What, Why? How? - Inside the Cyber24 Podcast
description: In this episode of the CYBER24 podcast, presented by VLCM, we discuss why many businesses are willing to risk a cybersecurity incident rather than invest in security training and technology. We also look into a recent phishing incident at a Utah hospital system.
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# Risk ransomware or invest in security? Small biz struggles – What, Why? How? - Inside the Cyber24 Podcast

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VLCM

 June 22, 2020

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[Originally posted on cyber24.us:](https://www.cyber24.us/episode-87-risk-ransomware-or-invest-in-security-small-biz-struggles/)

In this episode of the CYBER24 podcast, presented by VLCM, we discuss why many businesses are willing to risk a cybersecurity incident rather than invest in security training and technology. We also look into a recent phishing incident at a Utah hospital system.

 

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## Panelists:

Dan Schuyler, VLCM  
Anthony Booye, Sophos

 

 

## Links:

[Inc.com – Think Ransomware Can’t Put You Out of Business?](https://www.inc.com/adam-levin/think-ransomware-cant-put-you-out-of-business.html)  
[KSL.com – University of Utah health patient info was breached through phishing schemes](https://www.ksl.com/article/46761772/university-of-utah-health-patient-info-was-breached-through-phishing-schemes)

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